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Lodgement of
Open Briefing
Date of lodgement:
28-Dec-2003
Title: Open
Briefing. Magnesium Int. MD on Progressing SAMAG
Record of interview:
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CRU International forecasts
that an additional 160,000 tonnes per annum of magnesium metal
will be needed from Western producers over the next ten years
to satisfy demand growth. Why then has Magnesium International
Limited (MIL) found it hard to get share market support for
its SAMAG project (MIL 100%)?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
I think there are a
number of reasons for the poor market performance of all magnesium
stocks in Australia this year. Firstly the industry is not
a traditional industry in this country and is therefore not
really understood by the investment public. It does take a
bit of effort to understand that magnesium is not a homogeneous
market like gold or nickel or copper. The pricing structures
in the industry are also not well understood.
Second the industry
has suffered a number of supply side setbacks in the last
three years, including the closure of five Western smelters
and the collapse of the Stanwell project in Queensland. These
have cast a lot of uncertainty across the industry. The Stanwell
event has caused a lot of investors who were willing to back
a new industry a lot of pain and they are reluctant to give
another project a go in the same industry, even if it has
totally different fundamentals. But the fact that, for example,
the Murrin Murrin project has been such a problem doesn't
mean that nickel is a bad industry. They tried to commercialise
a different technology and found out that it was a big problem.
Stanwell was trying to do the same. We are intending to use
an absolutely proven technology so we are quite different.
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MIL announced a Shareholder
Share Purchase Scheme (SSPS) in November, which closes in
mid December 2003. What has been the response so far?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
The SSPS only opened
last week. There has been a steady inflow from shareholders
already and I'm confident we'll get a good response by the
time the offer closes. The funds raised will be used for work
that will ensure that MIL has the very best economic case
available for the smelter in this country.
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Earlier this year,
the South Australian Government confirmed its commitment to
the provision of $25 million of infrastructure support for
SAMAG and you also attracted the first cornerstone investor
with Thiess committing $20 million. What progress have you
made with attracting other cornerstone investors for SAMAG?
What are the concerns of potential investors?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
We've been pretty constantly
involved in project presentations since the details of the
SA Government's Business Case Review were made public in July.
The Review came back with positive results for SAMAG and for
MIL as we expected. Having said this, the fact that the Government
carried out the review at all really gave us a setback with
cornerstone investors and we've spent a lot of time and effort
revitalizing their interest. The Review also proved a major
setback in our discussions regarding support by the Federal
Government.
The cornerstone investors
we are talking to now are concerned about the market and the
effect of the Chinese and about the economic case for the
smelter, including the effect of the rise in the A$'s value.
We've been successful in presenting our view of the market
to them and we are now busy confirming that we have the best
economic case by undertaking the site review that we announced
at our AGM.
As we've previously
announced we regard the search for these investors as our
top corporate priority. We already have one cornerstone investor
in Thiess Ltd, who will be our construction contractor. Thiess
have agreed to provide up to $20 million in equity funding
for the project.
As far as the A$ is
concerned, we've seen an appreciation this year of some 28%
against the greenback. This affects our economics but we are
seeing some rise in the price of magnesium to offset the rise
in the A$. The major magnesium producing country is China
which has a currency tied to the USD so it isn't as affected
as we are in Australia. In due course we, and many others,
expect to see a gradual float of the yuan so in the future
prices for magnesium will reflect the value of the USD more
closely. This of course will mean that we'll be significantly
better off as we'll be at the absolute bottom of the production
cost curve when we get our smelter started.
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You've stated that
the global magnesium industry has continued to grow strongly
over the past year. Can you elaborate? Also, which new world
projects have made progress towards start up and what threat
does increased Chinese supply pose to market balance?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
The global magnesium
industry has already grown by about 6% already this year compared
to 2002. On an annualized basis this equates to around 30,000
tonnes of extra consumption. In addition we've had the closure
of the Magnola smelter in Canada which had been producing
at 25,000 tonnes per year, so the industry will have to find
another 55,000 tonnes of new primary production in the next
twelve months. With no extra capacity being added in the West,
this has to all come from China. As a result we've had a lot
of new capacity building in China and this has put pressure
on raw materials and prices have risen.
According to CRU International,
the industry is expected to maintain the 6% growth rate for
at least the next ten years, and if this occurs we'll need
an additional 350,000 tonnes per year compared to the 2002
production rate. CRU predicts that 160,000 tonnes per year
of this will have to come from the West because most of the
growth will be in the diecasting sector where high quality
magnesium alloys are what is required, rather than the lower
quality grades of magnesium where the Chinese have been so
successful in their penetration. At present the extra diecasting
tonnages are being satisfied by remelting Chinese primary
ingots in the West.
As far as the Western
World is concerned, there are no projects as advanced as SAMAG.
Stanwell is now out of the equation and although projects
have been mooted for Canada, the Congo and Victoria, all are
still at the preliminary feasibility stage and need to establish
pilot plants etc before they can advance to their next stage
of evaluation.
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During the year, both
the Magnola project and the Stanwell project were suspended.
What are the major differences between those projects and
SAMAG?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
The predominant cause
of both of these project failures is that they were attempting
to introduce new, unproven process technologies, on a very
large scale based on limited demonstration plants. This is
a very high risk project strategy. MIL has spent a lot of
time this year differentiating our smelter from the Magnola
and Stanwell projects. In stark contrast to these projects,
we've pointed out that our smelter development strategy embraces:
- an absolutely proven technology;
- a two stage construction plan which starts small and then
builds up capacity over time;
- a fixed price EPC construction contract, whose value is
known before we commit to building, so that we don't get
ourselves into the situation where we run out of funds and
fail to complete what we start.
Because of these features
we have a low risk development strategy. The main risk we'll
face, as with all commodity producers, will be market risk.
To mitigate this we've negotiated a unique fully committed
100% sales offtake agreement with major European trading company,
ThyssenKrupp Metallurgie. Under this agreement, ThyssenKrupp
will pay us at least a minimum price for our production which
covers all operating costs plus senior debt principal and
interest repayments. ThyssenKrupp have extended their agreement
into 2004 and so they're just as
committed as ever.
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The catalyst ultimately
leading to the suspension of Australian Magnesium's Stanwell
project was a blow out in capital costs. Can you give more
detail on how you will manage that risk for SAMAG?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
Firstly, as noted above
we'll have a fixed price EPC contract before we start building
the smelter. In fact we'll have the price fixed before we
raise the final equity funding for the project. Thiess have
been working on our project now for over three years and know
it backwards.
Secondly our process
is much simpler than the process proposed by Stanwell so it
is much easier to estimate costs.
Thirdly our debt funding
package will be locked in at Financial Close rather than floating
with no real commitment until the EPC price was fixed, which
is what happened at Stanwell.
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In order to improve
the economics of SAMAG, MIL is reviewing potential smelter
development sites around Australia. You have been running
with Port Pirie in South Australia as the development site
for some time. What are the benefits and detractions of relocating
at this stage?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
The site review will
look at smelter sites in Queensland and Victoria. It will
concentrate on capital costs and the major operating costs
which include power, gas and ore. The intention of the site
review is to see whether there is a site available where the
mix of lower capital and/or operating costs will deliver a
better economic result for the smelter than we can achieve
in South Australia.
I would like to reiterate
that there is absolutely nothing wrong with our site at Port
Pirie and that we'll only consider moving the smelter if there
is a demonstrable and significant economic advantage in doing
so. All our approvals for Port Pirie are in place and the
SA Government has reiterated its infrastructure support package
of $25 million as late as this week. If it ends up being confirmed
as the best site then we'll be delighted to build at Port
Pirie.
In Victoria we would
be looking primarily for lower power and gas prices and there
are quite a few potential power providers available. There
is potential for the Dow process to use flyash as a feedstock
but magnesite from our current leases in South Australia could
also be used in total, or as a makeup ore source. We haven't
begun to look at available sites or at the capital aspect
in Victoria yet.
In Queensland there
is also potential for lower power prices and gas prices via
coal seam gas and there are extensive deposits of what appears
to be reasonably good quality magnesite ore just north of
Rockhampton and close to the main rail line. At least two
deposits could be available as ore sources from that general
area and we've already ascertained that we can obtain ore
from one of these sources at a competitive cost. We know that
industrial parks with suitably sized site areas are established
in the Gladstone, Rockhampton and Townsville regions but as
yet we don't know what services are laid on at these sites.
There are numerous power sources in the Central Queensland
area while Townsville has a new power station on the drawing
board.
The ability to interrupt
our smelter's power supply is also something which has a different
value in each of these locations and we'll have to examine
this separately.
Thiess will be a great
help to us in assessing the capital costs for the different
locations as they have extensive data bases on relevant construction
costs throughout Australia.
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Will that include a
review of AMC's site at Stanwell in Queensland? Can MIL work
with AMC in any way?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
Both Queensland and
Victoria have proposed magnesium smelter projects which have
established relationships with their local communities and
their respective State Governments. What they don't have is
a proven technology for production of magnesium metal, or
a 100% offtake agreement, or a fixed price EPC contract. If
there are synergies which can be captured, or if the time
taken to complete the evaluation can be compressed by discussing
matters of common interest with them, then we would seek to
take advantage of that. The degree of commonality could be
very restricted, eg they may just become suppliers of ore
to our smelter, but it could also be much wider and deeper.
The review is going to be fairly detailed so we are ruling
nothing out at this stage.
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How long do you expect
the review to take and how much will it cost?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
We think it will take
around six months to complete the work with the main factor
being the environmental impact assessments. Clearly we don't
see this aspect as in any way problematic because we've already
received environmental approval for our smelter in South Australia
and their requirements are similar to other states. We've
already engaged Sinclair Knight Merz to commence work on this
aspect in Queensland and will be able to extend the brief
when we do a bit more work in Victoria.
The cost of the review
will not be high as we'll have very little additional engineering
work to do. Essentially the smelter is a "plug and play" design
as long as we can get suitable inputs such as good quality
ore and other consumables to the plant. There are very little
in terms of liquid or solid waste streams from the plant.
If we were to use different
feedstock source for the smelter we would have to do some
leach testing, but the cost of this would be quite low.
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The latest plan was
to build SAMAG in modules with the first being 41,000 tonnes
at a capital cost of $230 million. Is the project scope under
review as well as the location?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
We are not reviewing
the project scope and still intend to build in the two modules
previously proposed. This strategy reduces the risk to investors
markedly, ie
- We need less initial equity and debt;
- We enter the market more gradually;
- We will get lower priced debt for Module 2;
- We will incorporate lessons learned from the first module
into the second module.
We'll be undertaking
further engineering work in the next few months as well, however,
with a view to incorporating some improvements to the technology
which Dow had been pursuing into our smelter design. These
will not in any way compromise the bankability of the smelter
but will be aimed at enhancing the cost structure of the project
and perhaps making some upwards revision to planned smelter
capacity. But we'll still be building in two modules.
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MIL is still pursuing
the Magsheet initiative with the CSIRO and one possibility
is a separate listing of Magsheet with MIL having a significant
carried interest. Why would the equity market support that
concept?
Managing Director
Gordon Galt
Investors interested
in the Magsheet business would be able to invest directly
under this concept. Their returns would not be diluted by
existing MIL shareholders except to the extent that MIL has
a free carried interest, so new investors' returns will be
maximized. MIL shareholders would still benefit to the extent
of their carried interest and we'll investigate incorporating
a mechanism to allow MIL to claw back ownership at a later
stage.
We believe, as we said
last June, that the Magsheet business is a potentially superb
opportunity. The technology is well developed and there is
strongly growing demand. Hitachi
Metals have indicated they wish to purchase a substantial
quantity of sheet metal if testing proves positive. CSIRO
have continued developing the technology since mid year and
recently announced that they've completed successful installation
of a new coil line in the magnesium sheet plant (which already
exists) and the first coils of magnesium sheet of 60 kg each
have been supplied to Japan for rolling and forming trials.
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How
much cash does MIL hold and for how long will that sustain
the company?
Managing
Director Gordon Galt
MIL
has almost $4 million in cash and we expect to raise a reasonable
amount additionally through the SSPS. We've reduced our burn
rate and are concentrating on the main issues. Even with a
moderate takeup in the SSPS and in the absence of any further
raisings we'll have enough funding to sustain the company
till the end of 2004.
As
I explained in the AGM if appropriate, MIL will also use some
of the funds raised in the SSPS to undertake a listing on
the Alternative Investment Market (AIM) in London. The AIM
has recently changed its entry rules to allow easier listing
for ASX companies and has also significantly reduced entry
costs. The AIM has access to more providers of capital for
ventures like SAMAG than the Australian market and I have
recently been in Europe talking to AIM brokers.They like the
MIL story, especially our strategic position in the production
of what they regard as a strong growth industry and are ready
to introduce MIL to the market there whenever we wish to start
the process.
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Thank
you Gordon.
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